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	<title>Comments for Spiritual Enlightenment</title>
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	<description>A Travel Guide To Awakening &#38; Enlightenment</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Doing IT Spiritual Style by Astrid~ShivDas</title>
		<link>http://blog.oshana.org/doing-it-spiritual-style/#comment-1446</link>
		<dc:creator>Astrid~ShivDas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 06:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oshana~love somebodies have been DOING IT here cos we have kittens in the Garden Shed!.
Alas I cannot be with you IN IT on Sunday, except by remote, cos we have to be by the Sea without a computer; not even LAPTOP DANCING
Just swimming for JOY if itsnot too cold ~~~  ~~  ~

Ommm in Glory:}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}    kiss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oshana~love somebodies have been DOING IT here cos we have kittens in the Garden Shed!.<br />
Alas I cannot be with you IN IT on Sunday, except by remote, cos we have to be by the Sea without a computer; not even LAPTOP DANCING<br />
Just swimming for JOY if itsnot too cold ~~~  ~~  ~</p>
<p>Ommm in Glory:}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}    kiss</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fake Realisation: Fro-ZEN No-Mind by Sophia</title>
		<link>http://blog.oshana.org/fake-realisation-fro-zen-no-mind/#comment-641</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know if I'm right or wrong but I sometimes think about the world changing once everyone becomes enlightened.  I don't know how many millions of years it will take though.

Then I sometimes wonder about the 2012 prophecy and if it could possibly relate to a speeding-up of the enlightenment process for everyone.

This is just a thought, nothing more.  I have an active imagination sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;m right or wrong but I sometimes think about the world changing once everyone becomes enlightened.  I don&#8217;t know how many millions of years it will take though.</p>
<p>Then I sometimes wonder about the 2012 prophecy and if it could possibly relate to a speeding-up of the enlightenment process for everyone.</p>
<p>This is just a thought, nothing more.  I have an active imagination sometimes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fake Realisation: Fro-ZEN No-Mind by Mickey Dee</title>
		<link>http://blog.oshana.org/fake-realisation-fro-zen-no-mind/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your writing style but I am in the same position of meeting returnees from Peruvian drug communes who claim to have a superior realization to me (not that I have much aside from being a Psychic Channeller)...
Ultimately I have to judge from behaviour...I notice that my Ayeschero friends (can't spell it) seem to have more drive, self-confidence etc but in reality can barely pay the Rent, have worse boundaries than ever before... thus I assume there is some degree of self-delusion going on which is common amongst Initiates into Sorcery....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your writing style but I am in the same position of meeting returnees from Peruvian drug communes who claim to have a superior realization to me (not that I have much aside from being a Psychic Channeller)&#8230;<br />
Ultimately I have to judge from behaviour&#8230;I notice that my Ayeschero friends (can&#8217;t spell it) seem to have more drive, self-confidence etc but in reality can barely pay the Rent, have worse boundaries than ever before&#8230; thus I assume there is some degree of self-delusion going on which is common amongst Initiates into Sorcery&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fully Comprehensive Spirituality: Transmission Included by FM</title>
		<link>http://blog.oshana.org/fully-comprehensive-spirituality-transmission-included/#comment-593</link>
		<dc:creator>FM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes ! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes ! <img src='http://blog.oshana.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Jesus&#8217; Path - Increasing The Good Works by ShivDas</title>
		<link>http://blog.oshana.org/jesus-path-increasing-the-good-works/#comment-408</link>
		<dc:creator>ShivDas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Oshana love
Looking forward in this Transmission to join with you soon, next Sunday when I can experience your Body~Being here
All is progressing ~~~  ~~  ~
This Ocean is continuing to transform my Being Here via my brain, spine and nervous system ~
It has been painful and necessary ~
My body is Being re~aligned
Being Together again in the room will Be a delight     
Ommmm in Tantric Christ

Astrid ShivDas Ocean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Oshana love<br />
Looking forward in this Transmission to join with you soon, next Sunday when I can experience your Body~Being here<br />
All is progressing ~~~  ~~  ~<br />
This Ocean is continuing to transform my Being Here via my brain, spine and nervous system ~<br />
It has been painful and necessary ~<br />
My body is Being re~aligned<br />
Being Together again in the room will Be a delight<br />
Ommmm in Tantric Christ</p>
<p>Astrid ShivDas Ocean</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where Yo Been, Oshana? by ShivDas</title>
		<link>http://blog.oshana.org/where-yo-been-oshana/#comment-355</link>
		<dc:creator>ShivDas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Oshana

I look forward to being with you in London in December.... YES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Oshana</p>
<p>I look forward to being with you in London in December&#8230;. YES!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Enlightenment Day &#038; Responsibility by Nick</title>
		<link>http://blog.oshana.org/enlightenment-day-responsibility/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You Paul, 

Hi Dave,

I feel Pauls message actuallly speaks for many of us....
especially myself !!!
I to give permission for the cricket bat of wisdom....

Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You Paul, </p>
<p>Hi Dave,</p>
<p>I feel Pauls message actuallly speaks for many of us&#8230;.<br />
especially myself !!!<br />
I to give permission for the cricket bat of wisdom&#8230;.</p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where Yo Been, Oshana? by 213.162.106.252</title>
		<link>http://blog.oshana.org/where-yo-been-oshana/#comment-337</link>
		<dc:creator>213.162.106.252</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;"Marriage is a public declaration of a boundary to preserve the energy between two people."&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This seems quite idealistic to me. And isn't there the danger of limiting life's possibilities? Also isn't it very possessive to say "my wife" or my "husband"? Everybody is free or not?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think your view is somewhat conservative... :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Well, you used the word "preserve" which kind of means "conserve")&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Marriage is a public declaration of a boundary to preserve the energy between two people.&#8221;</p>
<p>This seems quite idealistic to me. And isn&#8217;t there the danger of limiting life&#8217;s possibilities? Also isn&#8217;t it very possessive to say &#8220;my wife&#8221; or my &#8220;husband&#8221;? Everybody is free or not?</p>
<p>I think your view is somewhat conservative&#8230; <img src='http://blog.oshana.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(Well, you used the word &#8220;preserve&#8221; which kind of means &#8220;conserve&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where Yo Been, Oshana? by Oshana</title>
		<link>http://blog.oshana.org/where-yo-been-oshana/#comment-332</link>
		<dc:creator>Oshana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nico,

I see marriage as an inner state. External contracts don't guarantee the integrity of a marriage. 

A marriage ritual can express an intention.

However, many important rituals today have become degraded, commercialised, standardised and sanitised.

Here in Finland nearly every 15 year old is desperate to attend a Christian confirmation (konfirmaatio)  confession camp (rippileiri). The camp finale is a group of white smocked teenagers huddled in front of a church altar trying to sing old fashioned hymns. 

The implication is that they are really interested in becoming Christians. 

Actually most of them aren't interested. In fact some of them hate the church. So why stand there in front of God, the image of Jesus and the community making a public declaration of faith?

Money!!

The teen expects a big pay out from all the relatives. Sounds like a mafia initiation. And so the corruption, lying and hypocrisy becomes institutionalized. 

Finns generally are good, honest and sincere people. The confirmation ceremony is well intentioned - it's about showing love to kids by giving them huge amounts of money, because that's what all their friends are getting, which they have no idea what to do with, so they buy a scooter which they can't really control especially when under the influence of alcohol. But it has nothing to do with Jesus.

The Lutheran Church profits handsomely by getting a percentage of everyone's monthly wages.

Marriage is a public declaration of a boundary to preserve the energy between two people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nico,</p>
<p>I see marriage as an inner state. External contracts don&#8217;t guarantee the integrity of a marriage. </p>
<p>A marriage ritual can express an intention.</p>
<p>However, many important rituals today have become degraded, commercialised, standardised and sanitised.</p>
<p>Here in Finland nearly every 15 year old is desperate to attend a Christian confirmation (konfirmaatio)  confession camp (rippileiri). The camp finale is a group of white smocked teenagers huddled in front of a church altar trying to sing old fashioned hymns. </p>
<p>The implication is that they are really interested in becoming Christians. </p>
<p>Actually most of them aren&#8217;t interested. In fact some of them hate the church. So why stand there in front of God, the image of Jesus and the community making a public declaration of faith?</p>
<p>Money!!</p>
<p>The teen expects a big pay out from all the relatives. Sounds like a mafia initiation. And so the corruption, lying and hypocrisy becomes institutionalized. </p>
<p>Finns generally are good, honest and sincere people. The confirmation ceremony is well intentioned - it&#8217;s about showing love to kids by giving them huge amounts of money, because that&#8217;s what all their friends are getting, which they have no idea what to do with, so they buy a scooter which they can&#8217;t really control especially when under the influence of alcohol. But it has nothing to do with Jesus.</p>
<p>The Lutheran Church profits handsomely by getting a percentage of everyone&#8217;s monthly wages.</p>
<p>Marriage is a public declaration of a boundary to preserve the energy between two people.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where Yo Been, Oshana? by Nico</title>
		<link>http://blog.oshana.org/where-yo-been-oshana/#comment-331</link>
		<dc:creator>Nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave,

I'm wondering what's important about marriage. If you love somebody you don't need any marriage. You have everything. Marriage seems more often than not a prison which implies a kind of ownership relationship: "You are my wife and you are not allowed to be (close) with other men." Well, if there is love there is absolutely no need for something artifical like marriage. And what if the love changes or ends?? You can never know.  

Anyway, apart from this :) I don't see any problem in marriage, on the contrary: if it is a celebration of love and life, well it is just that. Like an outer manifestation of the inner sense of rightness and happyness about beeing with the "right" person and maybe also a commitment to treat the other respectful and to serve them. But: why not living like this anyway, who needs a "contract" for that like marriage? And until I meet a couple for whom this is true and the above is not I see more negative than positive in marriage.

Anyway, I feel myself that there might be something more, something deeper about marriage. Right now its just a feeling, I can't grasp it...

love
nico</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering what&#8217;s important about marriage. If you love somebody you don&#8217;t need any marriage. You have everything. Marriage seems more often than not a prison which implies a kind of ownership relationship: &#8220;You are my wife and you are not allowed to be (close) with other men.&#8221; Well, if there is love there is absolutely no need for something artifical like marriage. And what if the love changes or ends?? You can never know.  </p>
<p>Anyway, apart from this <img src='http://blog.oshana.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I don&#8217;t see any problem in marriage, on the contrary: if it is a celebration of love and life, well it is just that. Like an outer manifestation of the inner sense of rightness and happyness about beeing with the &#8220;right&#8221; person and maybe also a commitment to treat the other respectful and to serve them. But: why not living like this anyway, who needs a &#8220;contract&#8221; for that like marriage? And until I meet a couple for whom this is true and the above is not I see more negative than positive in marriage.</p>
<p>Anyway, I feel myself that there might be something more, something deeper about marriage. Right now its just a feeling, I can&#8217;t grasp it&#8230;</p>
<p>love<br />
nico</p>
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